Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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I almost couldn't buy toys for my kids because of the defamation but I can buy them for myself as collectors items?... Bruh!!! Talk about a what the heck moment

Lloyd’s a liar and no one should believe anything he says. Even on his videos attacking WT he’s been known to exaggerate or sensationalise information in order to gain more clicks.

He can afford the $60 Darth Vader toy. He can afford haircuts and toys for his daughters.

Also initiating the lawsuit and complaining about the amount of money he paid the lawyers doesn’t help his claims of poverty.

He’s also going on beach holidays every few months and is making no secret about it.

His problem right now is his money making empire disguised as activism has been exposed, even to his followers. He’ll never be able to crowdfund for anything like he used to for the simple reason that everyone, supporter or detractor, knows quite well he has the money. Most of his Patrons have left, knowing precisely what their money is being used for.

2022 is his “Joel Osteen has a private jet” moment.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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When he says he's living in Zagreb, does that mean he and Dijana have separated?

This is according to Lloyd’s own words as his wife hasn’t said ANYTHING. So take this as you will, but again, this is according to him.

He and Dijana separated in late March and he moved to Zagreb in early April. Here is his comment from Kim’s video about him hitting up a London dating event:

He’s been posting in the Zagreb Expats FB group since early April. He’s also created a new Instagram account to hit on Instagram models either based in Zagreb or will be appearing there. His flat and his studio are located there. It’s probably a safe assumption that his wife and girls are still living with her parents in a flat above their home in Sisak.

As for the pics with his wife and girls on the Croatian beach, those were taken in September round his birthday.

I must opine that whilst it’s strange for a wife who was publicly outted as not sexually compatible after a humiliating Thai hooker scandal to allow herself and her children to be used as a PR prop on social media afterwards, it’s probably safe to say that the relationship between Lloyd and Dijana Evans is no conventional one.

If I were her age and came to the conclusion that Lloyd Evans was the best I could do for dick, then I respectfully ask that I be drug out into the street and shot.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Is it just me.but everytime something bad happen to him or he look like a complete idiot, he makes a post with one of his little girls

That’s exactly what he’s doing. Fairly good odds they know about the M7 and the lawsuit too.

And those girls are absolutely fucked as children on both sides since they have a mother who is already manipulated by him and grandparents who are scared of saying anything lest he forbids them to see the girls.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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He’s indoctrinating those girls. On one, he said he explains the paradise doctrine to his oldest and she exclaims: “How can it be paradise if everyone dies!”.

He should know quite well how traumatic that teaching was when growing up as a JW. Why expose your kids to it, even if you are taking a counterpoint? Her response tells me he went into details about billions dead and probably even quoted Tony Morris on the “burning flesh” quote.

What’s wrong with him? Can’t they grow up as normal children? Wasn’t that his main complaint in his book regarding his own childhood?

Does he talk to them about Jews in ovens and kids shrieking in agony before dying at Jonestown after they drank the Kool-Aid?

The second tweet is a pic of his youngest holding a book entitled “The Anatomy of Fascism”. He claims she chose it. It has a bland cover so I seriously doubt she’d choose it. And he just so happened to be speaking about Fascism when they were watching the Indians Jones movie. But out of all books she chose that. Right. So he’s basically taking them to a book store HE wants to go to and talking about things HE wants to talk about.

He took the tweet down for the removed video but his FB post is still up with the broken link. His followers are wondering where the video went:

All Wally did was point Cults to Con to the truth about Lloyd, meaning what he has said himself and admitted to. She saw it, understood she was deceived and dropped him.

Why are people all round the world, of different backgrounds all falling for what he terms as “Kim’s lies”? At what point does he turn inward and reflect upon it? It seems the more people reject him the more adamant he gets about fighting back.

It’s really pathetic at this point. Anyone who cares anything about him cough*Dijana*cough would be wise to clue him into this even though he’s likely to push back.

Maybe it’s none of her business either. It’s not like it’s affecting their kids or anything like that.

Oh wait…

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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We love you, Wally…

I’m with Derek on this…. It actually exposes her when her viewers find out exactly who LE is. As for Lloyd, it’s quite a fall to be interviewed for such a minuscule channel about Mormons.

I’d I were a Patron, I’d wonder when that promised yearly “documentary” when he hit 380 Patrons is coming out. November is here in a few days…

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Five hundred dollars would be a big advance for a first time author.

Lloyd expected much more. It's all there on his "I've started writing my Book" thread.

I've started writing my book... (jehovahs-witness.com)

(Can't resist, here are some choice excerpts..)

I really do appreciate your careful thought regarding my project. I think I will stick with plan A (the book proposal) for now, and if that fails I can always resort to plan B (writing the book anyway, and maybe going down the self-publishing route). If I go with plan B, I may well choose a pen name and forget the whole "disclosure" idea. My idea to go out with a bang would only really work if I achieve decent circulation, which is why I'm giving this project everything to make the book as attractive as possible for a potential publisher.

I intend to write a chapter on the JW approach to sex, marriage and morality, and how Society doctrines in this regard have impacted on me personally

Interviews may well play some part, depending on circumstances. If I get a decent advance, I may well invest some of it in visiting a few individuals in person!

Well, this is the furthest I've ever made it in a book-writing attempt so far - 23 pages and still going strong. Instead of doing just one sample chapter for the book proposal, I'm doing two.

$500 wouldn't have even covered one plane ticket outside of a Zagreb-UK shuttle. He was talking about getting an advance big enough to fly all over the world and interview exJWs. He also wanted enough to fly into the annual Tahoe Apostafest.

Seriously read through that thread. It's only 9 pages long.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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I remember that little book signing he did at some tiny bookstore... god love them for hosting an event but he was obviously so excited, like people would be lined up around the block to meet him. I thought I heard that literally no one showed except some xJWs that he had asked to arrange it or something?

I remember the first signing in London was a disaster. Back then Lloyd had everyone else do shit for him and all he had to do was show. It was at a coffee shoppe that allowed him to rope off a small section for signing. Problem was Lloyd wanted to assess a cover charge. The establishment had no such charge, so calls were made and it was all news to them he was doing that. Not even JK Rowling or other writers assess a cover charge. You get a signature if you purchase a book on the spot. Not Lloyd, he wanted to fund from all possible angles. Keep in mind this is after crowdfunding $20K USD to cover the cost of printing and marketing the book, including going on book tours. Like Watchtower, he wanted to be doubly compensated and he was.

The woman who put on the signing event met Lloyd beforehand and asked if she could get a copy to read. She was told flat out "no" and that if she wanted one she needed to purchase it. Lloyd was also acting funny, thinking this was a huge event in exJW history and wondered if he had enough pens to sign.

There was a moderate crowd, not sparse but not something to be bragging about.

On the American leg of the tour he got bigger crowds, I remember he was bragging about one being attended by 50 people. Of course, he took his wife and daughter and all the transportation and incidentals such as hotels and restaurants were crowdfunded by local exJWs. He went to Baltimore, New York and maybe another city like Philadelphia of Washington, can't quite remember. But when he flew to the west coast, he had a car rented for him and he drove from Los Angeles with stops in San Francisco, Salem Oregon, Seattle and Vancouver BC. All covered by the generosity of others. His trip to Australia was similarly funded.

He intended on renting a caravan for a tour through the American East Coast, South and Midwest. But for whatever reason that fell through, probably because of a lack of funding. Caravans are not cheap to rent, and it was getting a bit blatant that he was double-dipping these book tours with holiday time for his family.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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So, was he still trying to be anonymous at that time and that is why he did not make an appearance in that video?

That’s exactly why he didn’t appear. He was still incognito as “John Cedars” and I believe the word Lloyd uses for that now is “anonymous coward”.

He wanted to release his book, get disfellowshipped and use that for book promotion and coming out as his real identity. When he found no publishers willing to take up his book and give him his hoped for advance, he just went ahead and DAed.

Side note - since when does a publisher give a random former JW elder an “advance”? Advances are given to celebrities or prominent people for their memoirs.

Though she might not appreciate the question and since she’s here, I would like to know the reason why Barbara Anderson quit as VP of AAWA only a few days into launch. Was it because of Lloyd?

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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The video is cringe for several reasons. First, the interview itself was like 3 and a half minutes long. It was for BBC radio, but evidently Lloyd felt it was best to title that as "I am on the BBC!" making no distinction between television and radio. He basically explains the disfellowshipping policy and how it relates to his own dad shunning him and his young daughter. As for the Russian ban, again he brings his dad into it saying he does not want to see him jailed. Mumbles a few things about human rights and it seems she lost interest and wrapped up the interview.

The real cringe is his follow-up video afterwards. He goes into the background of his 3 and a half minutes of fame claiming he was "invited" to write for the Huff Post and that the article was vetted by them. As was mentioned earlier, he was fortunate enough to sign himself up for a blogger's account at the Huff Post before they stopped the practice. No one invited him to contribute a blog article for a service they were discontinuing. Then he claims the article led to him being "vetted" by the BBC where by his own admission he plugged his article to them. The BBC knew about it but it wasn't the reason they were vetting him. It would seem that his name was given to them through another source, probably an exJW one. Again, he's been propped up countless times by exJWs, so attacking and suing them was an extremely poor move on his part. He'll never pass another vetting process again, and should he even somehow get past that, they are going to have to ask him about his Thailand trip, the lawsuit, what exactly the "lies" were, etc. Good luck trying to sell that to a journalist. He's finished doing these interviews.

At round the 15 minute mark in that video you will come to the true reason he made it. He sets off on this contrived explanation of how YT was demonetising him and others, especially when he claimed he needed it the most because he was finishing his book and not producing as many videos. He even brought up a graph detailing his fall of revenue in true Stephen Lett style. You knew what was coming next. He then went into how he was a "fulltime activist" whilst Dijana continued the translation business. He emotionally manipulates the viewer into thinking that this was all a huge burden on Dijana now that she had no one to proofread her translations. He was too busy working hard for you! Then he posts a graphic that he had gained 18 Patrons, evidently a result of a previous Patron drive he initiated on social media. He was so "humbled" at the generous support and was so happy that all of you made his 3 and a half interview with the BBC possible.

If that video wasn't proof enough that this has been a business for him, then I don't know what is. Very manipulative.

P.S. - Toon Media is his Romanian friend Arthur Weber's company. It's not Lloyd's entity.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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The famous Croatian's begars mum was previously married and she came into possession of a large house in an affluent part of Wilmslow, his dad just took advantage of a jw woman that came with a free big house when he married her, no mortgage to pay like the rest of us.

This is confirmed in Lloyd's book. His dad came from Birkenhead, cross the river from Liverpool in what seems to be a lower middle class background. HIs dad's mum was a convert, so his dad has lived his entire life as a JW.

His mum was a convert herself. She was married twice before marrying his dad. The first marriage was to a man who concealed the fact he was gay. After that divorce, her first legitimate marriage was to a man named Robin whom she seemed to love. Robin already had a home in Wilmslow, a much better-off suburb than the one she grew up in in Eccles. Before she married Robin, she was already in contact with JWs as a study. Robin died in a house fire in 1974 when he fell asleep with a lit cigarette. His mum became a JW in 1975 when JWs consoled her in her grief.

His Mum married his dad in 1978 and he was born in 1979. He relates that he spent the first 4 years of his life in the same tall Victorian semi that his mum lived in with Robin. He doesn't specify if it had been rebuilt or repaired after the fire so one must assume it was since they continued to live there. Later at an unspecified date they moved to a smaller detached home from the centre of town. Evidently this is where his dad still lives.

So, it's actually the sale of his mum's second husband's tall Victorian home that bought their new home. This is interesting, since he did the same as his dad did in moving into his wife's family home.